What would you do thread?

[levistep]

I have no read on the bad guy. I'll post a few of these, and then tell you what I did and show the outcome of the hand.

***** Hand History for Game 4018139401 *****
$25 NL Texas Hold'em - Tuesday, April 18, 15:11:17 ET 2006
Table Table 98850 (Real Money)
Seat 6 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 2: ATUMH05 ( $9.25 )
Seat 3: DittieAce ( $15.95 )
Seat 6: LedeBjarke ( $17.50 )
Seat 10: Mackiavel ( $26.80 )
Seat 8: Hero ( $24.05 )
Seat 9: hawk4life26 ( $14.20 )
Seat 1: Taviii ( $14.25 )
Seat 4: AQdevil420 ( $21.15 )
Seat 5: ac021111 ( $31.70 )
Seat 7: BluffingAA ( $21.30 )
BluffingAA posts small blind [$0.10].
Hero posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ Kc 9d ]
>You have options at Reely Mine Table!.
hawk4life26 folds.
Mackiavel folds.
Taviii folds.
ATUMH05 folds.
>You have options at Gone South Table!.
DittieAce folds.
AQdevil420 calls [$0.25].
ac021111 calls [$0.25].
LedeBjarke folds.
BluffingAA calls [$0.15].
Hero checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Kd, 9h, Qc ]
BluffingAA bets [$0.50].
Hero calls [$0.50].
AQdevil420 folds.
ac021111 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
BluffingAA bets [$0.50].
>You have options at Tereshkova Table!.
Hero raises [$2].
BluffingAA is all-In [$20.05]
Hero?

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

well ill tell u wat i would do and y...the guy has less than 25 at a 25 table tells me he may not be that good, thats the only tell i could get so id go with it. id say he's either got a set, Q3 or if he's really bad a draw or nothing at all...i see players win here by calling all day long....but if i call he's got the set! from the looks of the number of tables your playing you can afford to call this, plus you have outs for the house, which if its me raising and you calling your sure to hit! I call and lose, you called and won.......NH

:thumbsup2:

 

[levistep]

I wish I won, but I didn't. I made the call, and I'd do it again, for the follow reasons;

He could have easily had k3, q3, q9, and 93 making me a huge favorite. It's unlikely he has kk or qq because he would have raised. 99 is also unlikely because i have one of the nines. He didn't hit a set of 3s because he wouldn't have bet the flop with 33. So the only realistic hands that could beat me are qk and the jt.

Most likely, this guy is a maniac since he got all his chips in after playing 3 hands. His all-in raise is really typical of someone just hitting their hand and getting really excited. It's not very smart to reraise all-in with a monster. Additionally, this is NL 25, so the guy could be junk.

I posted this hand at another site and they said it was a bad call (probably because they are all monday morning quarterbacks because I posted the results ahead of time).



Hero calls [$18.55].
** Dealing River ** [ 7d ]
Hero shows [ Kc, 9d ] two pairs, kings and nines.
BluffingAA shows [ Td, Js ] a straight, nine to king.
BluffingAA wins $40.95 from the main pot with a straight, nine to king.

 

[levistep]

Anyone think I played it wrong?

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

" or if he's really bad a draw '

Now u see y i suck at cash games, i misread your board when i had all day to look at it..lol
looking at it now in proper perspective i have to agree it was a bad call...at 25nl they will call with any 2 face cards and J10 was highly likely on the re-raise....

I'm doing the chris ferguson deal now, if it aint worth a raise its a fold. so im not likely to play K9 anyway but if i did i'd then go to the Brunson method of betting the pot on the flop then shutting it down if i met resistance....the whole reason for playing this level is to catch these guys making a mistake for all their chips and in this case it was (i think) a good bet u were up against a set, a straight or a bluff. 2 of the 3 could beat you and that means its a fold, lose a few bucks and wait for a better spot.....

 

[levistep]

" or if he's really bad a draw '

Now u see y i suck at cash games, i misread your board when i had all day to look at it..lol
looking at it now in proper perspective i have to agree it was a bad call...at 25nl they will call with any 2 face cards and J10 was highly likely on the re-raise....

He could have EASILY had a weaker 2 pair with that board or even something like kj. You can't easily put the guy on TJ, that's a little absurd I think. I'll let you do the monday morning qb thing though, lol.

" I'm doing the chris ferguson deal now, if it aint worth a raise its a fold. so im not likely to play K9 anyway

I was the BB.

" but if i did i'd then go to the Brunson method of betting the pot on the flop then shutting it down if i met resistance

I hope Brunson's strat is a little more involved than that.

" ....the whole reason for playing this level is to catch these guys making a mistake for all their chips and in this case it was (i think) a good bet u were up against a set, a straight or a bluff. 2 of the 3 could beat you and that means its a fold, lose a few bucks and wait for a better spot.....

A set isn't likely in my opinion. He would have raised a kk or qq, and probably 99. The fact that I had k9 in my hand greatly reduces the odds that he had 99 or kk. I highly doubt he'd bet out on the flop with 33 with several people behind him and then catch a set on the turn.

If that's your opinion then that's ok, but does anyone else have a comment.

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

naaa no mon qb here, but it looks to me like he was making the .50 raise looking for some one to reraise him so he could then go for broke.....J10 is HIGHLY likely here as is a BIGGER 2 pr AND somebody slow playing pckt K'S or Q's.i see people do it all the time.if an A doesnt flop and it comes a rainbow flop they THEN start looking to get their money in the pot.....i made a post here within the last few months about people doing just that.
I still say though that a pot sized or more bet on the flop would have told you more about where you were at in the hand and with more ways to lose than there are to win i cant see calling the all-in.....thats y ur multi -tabling, waiting on the nuts then killing em with em. i dont think u were a big favorite to hold the nuts here......

 

[Boxslayer]

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[Boxslayer]

i would have reraised on the flop, that would have told you immediately what you were up against with less variables (cards) and it wouldnt allow him to draw for the gut shot

you got greedy a bit in this scenario and tried to slow play 2 pair. people dont raise preflop with 10J off but its a playable hand and it wasnt entirely a stretch to put him on 10J.

when that turn came out, it added another variable for you to believe he also hit 2 pair. But if he makes that all-in reraise after the flop instead of the turn, it becomes more obvious that you were up against a straight or trip 9's.

can't say what i would have done once he went all-in. i would of had to of been there and just had a feel for it. speed of betting, etc.

cant really blame you for calling as that turn couldnt of helped him unless he had trip 3's. tough call. but i do think reraising after the flop would of gave u a better idea of what was going on, i would of check called if i had trips and called his all-in.